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Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 pm
by aengel
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Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:58 pm
by maxt
aengel and wonko, thank you both for the references.

however I assume that neither of you has succesfully printed with an UV ink with the XAAR-128 ? and not with a water based ink ?

thanks
Massimo

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:58 pm
by Wonko
I have only tried solvent based ink, yes. Tritron V Photon black is a suggestion from the Xaar ink recommendation list specifically for the 128, but who knows if that list is correct. This is the only UV ink mentioned there. Water based ink fails for me completely. It took me forever to find that out when I connected the head the first time. I doubted my power electronics, my connections, my data logic, my uC programming, until changing to solvent based ink proved that I did everything correctly from the beginning - except choosing the right ink.

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 7:07 pm
by davidk
I know. I made the same mistakes and assumptions and lost two printheads by running water and aqueous ink. The irony is for me solvent ink was exactly what I needed. And it never clogs...

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:52 am
by maxt
hi,
and thank you for avoiding me a lot of troubles... I'll have to look into the solvent based inks, if they fit my application. Certeinly not for the plaster powder... Any clue what kind of solvent are these inks based on ?
thanks
Massimo

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:57 pm
by Braden
davidk,

Could you please send me some pics of your ink supply system? I am trying to use an espon ink damper in my design such as you but cannot seem to get consistent ink flow without air bubbles in my hose lines. Specifically, I either get way too much ink flow and ink bleeds a lot or I get way too little ink flow and have big air bubbles in my supply line. I am trying to use a gravity fed ink supply system instead of a vacuum fed one in order to save money and time on the design.

Thanks for the help,

Braden

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:33 am
by davidk
Hi,

This is my setup. You can see the damper above the head, the capping station I built (with a silicone band gasket and peristaltic pump), the reservoir and of course a print sample. The sample print is 8 times overprint microweaved. My head has a full blocked nozzle and many nozzles are deflecting badly.
I have a brand new head but didn't install yet.

Priming was donme very easy, with the head pressed by capping gasket. Pump was sucking ink for about 10...15s in two times. After this I wiped manually with a tissue and it's ready for use.

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 5:25 pm
by maxt
hi,

anybody knows what's the difference between wetting and non wetting versions of this printhead ? Cost the same, which one is preferable in which application ?

thanks
Massimo

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 3:59 am
by davidk
I really have no ideea and they don't explain this in datasheet. I understand from datasheet that the non wetting models are harder to care because of the nozzle plate coating. They can't be wiped in fact you can never touch the nozzle plate because the coating will be damaged.

Re: Hacking the Xaar 128 printhead

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 1:58 pm
by maxt
davidk wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 3:59 am I really have no ideea and they don't explain this in datasheet. I understand from datasheet that the non wetting models are harder to care because of the nozzle plate coating. They can't be wiped in fact you can never touch the nozzle plate because the coating will be damaged.
yeah, that was my understanding as well. But since they cost the same I was wandering what's the benefit for so much delicate coating